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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Jun 7, 2011 18:12:18 GMT -5
Compared to them, Daine is flat to me. Perhaps it's because she led a calmer lifestyle, but I always felt she hid behind her magic. It defined her, rather than her defining it. The lifestyle that we saw was calmer, yes, but in her backstory she'd been through more than either Alanna or Kel -- entire family killed by bandits, went mad and joined a wolfpack, and oh yeah that whole murdering thing? And her magic defining her rather than her defining it, I think, was tied in well with the fact that it was from her father, and the interplay with the gods (and lower immortals) was made more interesting by her particular breed of magic than it would have been had she been born with the Gift or, like Kel, none at all. So I wouldn't call Daine "flat." Correct, but as you mentioned, that was all backstory. We didn't see very much of it, only heard about it through flashbacks. Her story is about her dealing with that and then coming to find out she's a demi-god. I find that boring, but that's my opinion. |
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Aug 30, 2011 8:06:25 GMT -5
I just learned that my school has one of Tamora Pierce's original manuscripts.
Be fucking jealous.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Aug 30, 2011 12:30:15 GMT -5
I just learned that my school has one of Tamora Pierce's original manuscripts. Be fucking jealous. *is fucking jealous* |
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Post by Marina on Sept 1, 2011 20:59:12 GMT -5
So, I just finished Bloodhound, book two of the Beka Cooper series. And I can I just say that next to Protector of the Small, these are my next favorites (keeping in mind that I haven't read Trickster books, or Diane books) . Beka is just such an amazing character, and she's more balanced that all the other heroines. Can you imagine if Allana's books were as developed as Kel's and Beka's? I think then all of Tamora Pierces's books would be the best I've read.
Also, I just read on inside of the book jacket that her husband is a website designer. He needs to make her a better website, because hers kind of sucks.
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Sept 3, 2011 13:59:32 GMT -5
I just learned that my school has one of Tamora Pierce's original manuscripts. Be fucking jealous. *is fucking jealous* As you should be. Mastiff is available for pre-order! ...I still need to read Bloodhound! |
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Sept 3, 2011 14:23:03 GMT -5
As you should be. Mastiff is available for pre-order! ...I still need to read Bloodhound! READ IT NOW. Whatever you're reading instead is NOT AS IMPORTANT. Capitalizations of only three words AT A TIME. |
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Sept 4, 2011 0:16:52 GMT -5
Okay, okay, I get it. I'll read it...next weekend, promise. Got a bunch of other books to go through. Luckily, it IS on my bookshelf here at school.
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Post by Marina on Jan 8, 2012 0:59:34 GMT -5
I'm finally reading The Immortals series. I thought the War between them would span through all the books, since they make such a big deal out of in Protector of the Small. Or she'd make the struggle more apparent, but she just kind of mentions it in the passing. I just finished book 3.
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Post by sammybluejay on Jan 8, 2012 1:44:16 GMT -5
HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS THREAD BEFORE? *flails*
I love Tamora Pierce! If I'd never picked up Alanna that fateful day in public school I'd've never become so into reading and writing fantasy as I did. I've reread the Lioness Quartet countless times and I think it's my favourite series of hers. There's just something about that stubborn redhead that I always have and always will love. Also, George is still one of my number one literary crushes no matter how many other books I read and Roger is one HELL of a villain, and I have always had a very healthy appreciation for a good villain!
I am definitely with onlyaworkingtitle in that I actually love the Immortals series as well. And yes, total crush on Numair, too (though never as much as George). I do have to reread that one soon...
I unfortunately haven't read much else. I read the Trickster books a long time ago, long enough that I don't remember much of them. And the Kel thing is ringing a bell, although I didn't get as obsessed with it as I was the Lioness Quartet. It's possible that when I read those ones I was leaning away from Pierce and into something else, and then just never got back into that one as much.
I also have not touched any of the Beka Cooper series as yet. Would you guys recommend those ones? Are they good?
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Jan 8, 2012 3:26:24 GMT -5
I'll admit this: I'm not a huge fan of Beka Cooper. I WANT TO LIKE HER, THOUGH.  But the book just... Okay, it's a lot different than her other Tortall books. First, it's told in journal entries. Second, everything you know about Tortall is now A LIE because this takes places ages and ages and ages prior to the events of The Lioness Quartet. Thirdly, Beka is a lot different (from what I remember) from Pierce's other characters. So...I dunno. It's not my favourite. I'll still (eventually) read it, though. AND YAY SOMEONE ELSE WHO LOVES THE LIONESS QUARTET |
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jan 8, 2012 15:48:48 GMT -5
HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS THREAD BEFORE? *flails* I love Tamora Pierce! If I'd never picked up Alanna that fateful day in public school I'd've never become so into reading and writing fantasy as I did. I've reread the Lioness Quartet countless times and I think it's my favourite series of hers. There's just something about that stubborn redhead that I always have and always will love. Also, George is still one of my number one literary crushes no matter how many other books I read and Roger is one HELL of a villain, and I have always had a very healthy appreciation for a good villain! I am definitely with onlyaworkingtitle in that I actually love the Immortals series as well. And yes, total crush on Numair, too (though never as much as George). I do have to reread that one soon... I unfortunately haven't read much else. I read the Trickster books a long time ago, long enough that I don't remember much of them. And the Kel thing is ringing a bell, although I didn't get as obsessed with it as I was the Lioness Quartet. It's possible that when I read those ones I was leaning away from Pierce and into something else, and then just never got back into that one as much. I also have not touched any of the Beka Cooper series as yet. Would you guys recommend those ones? Are they good? WE AGREE ON EVERYTHING. I greatly enjoyed the Beka Cooper books -- they're different from her usual, yes, but that isn't necessarily bad. Journal format, 300 years preceding Alanna, and a higher age demographic... Also, the main character's lives in a different social class than the others -- Daine is the only other commonborn heroine, and even she spends most of her time living among the nobility. Beka's a common cop -- she lives and works in the toughest neighborhood of Corus, and so do most of her associates. So the world she sees (and writes about) would be drastically different from Alanna's even if they were of the same era. |
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Post by sammybluejay on Jan 8, 2012 20:05:41 GMT -5
Hmm...I will definitely give them a try then. I know my friend has all of them (except one that I guess just came out? or something) so I'll steal them from her after I finish rereading the Immortals series. Which I started again last night after I read this thread.
Also, even just the small role George gets in Wild Magic where they go to his castle or whatever gave me butterflies. Clearly, none of his charm has faded as I aged.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jan 8, 2012 20:48:14 GMT -5
Also, even just the small role George gets in Wild Magic where they go to his castle or whatever gave me butterflies. Clearly, none of his charm has faded as I aged. Well, Beka being George's great-great-someodd-grandmother means there's the odd reverse-reference where George fans can flail. Also, there are a couple flash-forward journal entries (for example, the series starts with an entry by George's mother about her son getting too street-savvy for his own good, and scolding him about dirtying his famous-cop-ancestor's name -- so reading about child-George! huzzah). |
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Post by Marina on Jan 8, 2012 21:26:13 GMT -5
You know, even if Daine does spend a lot of time with nobility-- it's mostly Numair and the other weirdos... and by weirdos I obviously mean all the cool people that are considered weirdoes by everyone else in the books. But we barely get a glimpse of any of them really, they may appear in small scenes, but otherwise they're only mentioned in the passing.
I also wish there was more interaction between Numair and her. I mean in book one she's thirteen... too early for anything more than paternal relationship. In the second book she's thirteen going on fourteen, still a bit young and they spend most of the book separated. Though the ending is sweet since he's all so worried about her. In the third book she's what, fourteen going on fifteen? Still a bit young, but Numair is already going all territorial. Also, I've made a point to track their relationship, and besides occasional bits of jealousy Daine isn't really into him. I guess she still sees him mostly as a teacher/friend. In the final book, and I'm only a little over 100 pages in, I'm starting to see somewhat a beginning of a more romantic relationship. There was this one moment actually "Puzzled, confused--feeling as if she'd glimpsed something important, only to have it vanish--Daine trotted to catch up" (Immortals, Book 4, Page 109)-- I think this is pretty it for them, or her at least, the moment... actually a little bit up "She smiled into his face, so close to her own just then. Briefly, his eyes changed; a strange, burning excitement filled them, and made her catch her breath" (109)... Good lord, this is the moment where I flail my arms and squeal.
Also, I've spoiled myself enough to know they kiss in this book. Also, possible library sex. If there isn't some nice, against a bookshelf grinding, I'm going to be very disappointed.
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Jan 8, 2012 22:48:41 GMT -5
Also, even just the small role George gets in Wild Magic where they go to his castle or whatever gave me butterflies. Clearly, none of his charm has faded as I aged. George is awesome, yes. I like him in the Trickster books, too, 'cause I feel we learn more about him and how he acts. But my favourite Tortall man is Sergeant Domitan of Masbolle, aka Dom, from the Protector of the Small books. No idea why, and he's only mentioned for a bit, but he's my absolute fave. Second is Liam Ironarm, the Shang Dragon. |
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But the book just...