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Post by afontofnothing on May 30, 2011 13:19:47 GMT -5
I know I'm not the only Buffy fan on here.
Come on, let's discuss this fantastic show!
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on May 30, 2011 13:21:23 GMT -5
Fuuuu- YES BUFFEH ...I'm a big fan.  P.S. Giles is the best character. |
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Post by embonpoint on May 30, 2011 14:01:17 GMT -5
Giles is clearly the best because he's British! x)
I actually recently re-watched all seven series. I definitely think the first three are the best (but I'm biased because I am in love with Angel/David Boreanaz and have been since I was seven).
Am I the only one who really dislikes Buffy (the character, not the whole show, obviously!)? I think she's just an awful person, basically.
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on May 30, 2011 14:18:59 GMT -5
That's because of her superiority complex/inferiority complex.
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Post by Tucker on May 30, 2011 14:37:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Buffy basically sucks as a person embonpoint. While David Boreanaz makes the first three seasons okay, they are still SO BAD! Though maybe that's because I hate the High school dynamic. Season six is definitely the best. It has 'Once more with feeling' (yay musicals!) and all the terribleness of life for all the characters. And, uh. Goth Willow is hot?
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Post by Tucker on May 30, 2011 14:40:49 GMT -5
Ah! I forgot to say before: Spike! After they start having flashbacks for his character and revealing his history he is the most amazing dude evar! It makes so much sense that a terrible poet who was picked on by everyone would become a psychotic killer.
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Post by embonpoint on May 30, 2011 14:45:12 GMT -5
Ahhh, see I love the high school thing, but I also just dislike a lot of what happens in the later series: Buffy being brought out of Heaven, Dawn (I just hate everything about her), Anya and Xander not being together, Buffy and Spike, Tara dying, Warren, Giles not being there, Willow's 'magic rehab', The Initiative and Adam... Damn, why do I even watch this show?  But yes! I LOVE Spike. I think he's so great as a character - much more interesting than Angel (even though I prefer Angel). |
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Post by Tucker on May 30, 2011 22:58:02 GMT -5
I love character death. I find it makes things so much more interesting. That's why I didn't mind Tara dying. Or Doyle in Angel (which I pretty much consider a part of the Buffyverse). Buffy's mother and Anya dying were just like icing on the cake then for the whole thing, it brought tears to my eyes I must admit. I will agree, the magic rehab thing was clunkily done, and I would have been fine without it.
And YES! Spike is so much better than Angel. Maybe it's just because he's more pathetic, or because he finally does some poetry readings in the last episode of Angel. Whatever the reason he is great.
And Dawn isn't all that bad (not just because I find her attractive either). At least in seasons 6 and 7. I like that I can empathize with being the younger sibling with nothing special about yourself. I mean really, it sucks living in the shadow of older siblings that actually have talent of sorts.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on May 31, 2011 0:39:06 GMT -5
Buffy is terribly annoying, and Buffy's Angel is dull as dirt with the constant-broodiness, so I didn't care a whit for them as a couple, but I actually quite adore Angel in the latter seasons of his own show (you know, when he grew a sense of humor and some friends).
Spike, on the other hand, was always fantastically interesting.
Any other Armadillos read the canonical continuation comics? They are much fun, and satisfy the endless need for More Buffyverse.
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Post by embonpoint on May 31, 2011 8:14:08 GMT -5
I love character death. I find it makes things so much more interesting. That's why I didn't mind Tara dying. Or Doyle in Angel (which I pretty much consider a part of the Buffyverse). Buffy's mother and Anya dying were just like icing on the cake then for the whole thing, it brought tears to my eyes I must admit. I will agree, the magic rehab thing was clunkily done, and I would have been fine without it. I HATE that Anya and Doyle die! I mean, it's really sad and is great for the shows, but I HATE it. I loved them both and it frustrates me so much that Anya and Xander had only just got back together (-ish) and then she dies!  |
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Post by krista on May 31, 2011 11:11:03 GMT -5
I'm a huge Buffy fan! I'm so excited that the series is going to re-air on Teen Nick soon. However, I really was not a fan of the Angel spin-off series. I couldn't get into the story lines, even though they were practically the same shows! Maybe I was too young and I should try re-watching the series again.
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Post by embonpoint on May 31, 2011 11:15:16 GMT -5
You could try watching Angel again. Although, I only really like series one and five; I kind of really dislike the series in the middle. Two is not so bad, but three and four, just ugh.
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Post by Tucker on May 31, 2011 12:54:28 GMT -5
You could try watching Angel again. Although, I only really like series one and five; I kind of really dislike the series in the middle. Two is not so bad, but three and four, just ugh. Didn't like watching Wesley get the shit kicked out of him and become a bad person? Though I agree that three and four weren't all that good. |
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Post by embonpoint on May 31, 2011 13:06:35 GMT -5
I didn't like that, no (because I LOVE WES SO MUCH! And I don't think he becomes a bad person - misguided and a bit dense, maybe but not bad) but no, it was mainly that I cannot stand Connor. I hate him so much I can't even explain. He makes watching the series painful. I mean, I watch quite a lot of TV shows that I hate or have characters in that I hate (why? I don't know), but Connor/series three and four take the biscuit.
I also hate what they do to Cordelia; they make her super obnoxious, self-righteous, morally-superior... She just really annoyed me, which is a shame because I did really like her. She was sassy and bitchy in the right way and I don't know. I feel like they ruined her character. I also thought the thing with Connor and Cordelia was a) gross and b) stupid and c) WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING? WHY DID THAT HAPPEN? WHY, WHY, WHY? D:
However, I do LOVE the episode where they take out Angel's soul. That is a good one.
Oh and yeah, I shouldn't really have included series two in my post above; it doesn't compare (in 'badness') to series three/four, even though I don't think it's quite as good as one/five.
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Post by mascaria on May 31, 2011 14:01:31 GMT -5
I'm a huge Buffy fan!
I think Seasons 2 and 7 are my favorite, for completely different reasons - the high school years have this sweet kitschy-ness to them and the later seasons are so much more dark and morally complicated.
Giles and Spike are my favorite characters, without a doubt.
As for Angel, I do like it but I think it's a slightly inferior show. I'm currently watching Season 4 and it's very, very frustrating, between Wesley and the Connor/Cordy thing.
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