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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 25, 2011 15:51:25 GMT -5
[I'm curious to see how they'll twist around his death in The Impossible Astronaut - though they'll probably just say that he managed to be resurrected the same way the Master was resurrected in The End of Time. I just noticed you wrote this. Spoilers for the last two episodes of the first part of season six ahead so DON'T CONTINUE IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEMI'm of the belief that the Doctor that was killed in The Impossible Astronaut is the Flesh Doctor (we've already seen that he can pretend to be the Real Doctor (using 'Real' and 'Flesh' here just for clarification and not implying that the Flesh!people aren't real) well enough to fool Amy and everybody else) and that the Doctor they meet in the diner is either the Real Doctor that knows nothing about what's going on, or he knows it all and is planning it all. And the Astronaut is, indeed, River. (On the note of River, I was so ready to throw out all the kissing during that scene with the cradle because I was so sure she was his mom. How adorable would that have been? Eleven's such a little kid, it was all I could think about, that she was his mom. Also, I don't hate River. I like River a lot. /unpopular opinion) ... you need to watch the rest of the first half of season 6. REALLY NEED TO. |
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Post by Gina on Jun 25, 2011 20:42:44 GMT -5
I have been trying to get into Doctor Who for a while. BBC America has tons of repeats on, I just get really confused. I would definitely buy the seasons on DVD so I can just start from the beginning, but then I found out that there's TONS of different Doctors out there, and now I'm more confused than ever.  Eventually, I will get caught up with everything and I WILL be able to post here!  Start with the Ninth Doctor, who is played by Christopher Eccleston. Doctor Who was put on a hiatus between his Doctor and the previous one, so when it came back it came back in style. From Nine on the series is more modern and (I think) easier to get into than the previous ones. You can always go back and watch the older ones but you won't miss anything by starting with Nine. It is almost like a reboot of the older series. Awesome! Thanks for the advice.  |
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Post by mollywobbles on Jun 25, 2011 22:47:27 GMT -5
I love Doctor Who so much! My dad (RIP) used to watch it, but I never really got into it. Then one day I started watching the episode when the Doctor and Rose go back to the 1960's and there is something wrong with the TVs. It's not even close to being a great episode, but I enjoyed watching it with him because it reminded me of The Twilight Zone which was a show we used to watch together as well. I never really watched it again until after he died when I downloaded the first episode of Nine's run. I've been addicted ever since.
Eleven is my doctor because he's the first whose run I've watched as it aired.
SPOILERS for "A Good Man Goes to War":
I predicted that River is Amy and Rory's daughter after watching the second episode of this season.
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Post by bookworm2007 on Jul 2, 2011 14:45:31 GMT -5
The Doctor was in a couple of Sarah Jane Adventures episodes last year and said that he can regenerate 507 times. People now think that the 12 regenerations limit was a law/convention/custom rather than a biological limit (we know, for example, that the Master used up all his regenerations then switched to a non-Gallifreian body and tried to get the High Council to get him a new series of regenerations - which probably eventually happened during the Time War when the Time Lords gave him a new body) and since there are no other Time Lords around to count the Doctor's regenerations, he can regenerate as many times as he can. I'm curious to see how they'll twist around his death in The Impossible Astronaut - though they'll probably just say that he managed to be resurrected the same way the Master was resurrected in The End of Time. 5+0+7 = 12 It's mentioned in tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Death_of_the_Doctor that RTD suggested this was a joke. |
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Post by andy on Jul 3, 2011 17:13:18 GMT -5
In the interview in which RTD talks about it (see here), he actually says it's very strange that people believe the 13 lives theory to be true: There’s a fascinating academic study to be made out of how some facts stick and some don’t – how Jon Pertwee’s Doctor could say he was thousands of years old, and no-one listens to that, and yet someone once says he’s only got thirteen lives, and it becomes lore. It’s really interesting, I think. That’s why I’m quite serious that that 507 thing won’t stick, because the 13 is too deeply ingrained in the public consciousness. But how? How did that get there? It’s fascinating, it’s really weird. Anyway, that’ll be my book in my retirement! |
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Post by tosney on Jul 16, 2011 16:12:04 GMT -5
AAAAAH YES. Psychological scarring pulled off without angst! Love it. I am curious to find out more about her, though -- when we first met her, she was living alone in her family home, but claimed to have been raised by "her aunt," whom we have never met but who, assumably, never noticed the Rift. My curiosity. It is aroused. I noticed her universe was reset at the end of season 5. (She grew up with her parents so she's supposed to be less scarred) but I don't think Moffat and company have mentioned that during this season. (I think they've been a little preoccupied with the whole FLESH story line) They also never bothered to mention again why Amy didn't know about the Dalek invasions that they brought up during the beginning of 5. I think that was a bit that ended up going nowhere but could have been cool... She grew up with her aunt because her parents were erased by the crack in her wall - the crack was unwinding time, making things unhappen, remember? That's also why Amy didn't remember the Dalek invasion - because it never happened. These things were foreshadowing the revelation that time was unwinding. (Once she became a time traveler though, she was able to remember things that had happened, and then unhappened, though. This is explained in one of the Angel episodes). This was all redeemed when the universe reset, though. I know this was a couple of pages ago, but I wanted to explain it ^_^ Anyways, we were discussing companions. I watched season 5 first, and after having so much fun with Amy, I thought Rose was really annoying. I got used to her, though I liked Martha much better. I think 10's Doctor was watered down by Rose's presence because their chemistry was so lukewarm. With Martha's calculating and helpful character, he was able to show off his eccentricities and characteristics without intrusion by an annoying blonde chick. I thought 10 was boring until Rose went away (at last!) and then I grew to like him almost as much as 11. The only bad thing about Martha was how quickly she became infatuated (rawr) but it did provide a decent way for her to leave - and I like that she made the decision on her own. I also enjoyed Donna greatly, and as well as being actually helpful, she also really emotionally supported him and helped him make the hard decisions. Favorite writer: Moffat by far. Character driven stories, complexities, humor - I enjoy it all, even though he's slightly predictable at times. RTD was rather angsty and I feel there was a lot of writing done to attempt to excite the fans rather then the good of the plot - for example, all the love interests, and sometimes introducing companions just to leave them behind after an episode (although I'm glad Donna came back). I felt like he was trying to handle the fan's emotions through transparent devices rather than creating emotion and engaging the watcher by actually writing well sometimes. (Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but sometimes he really annoyed me.) And he made the Doctor all godly. I laughed out loud when he was carried by the angels in the titanic episode and when he said "I forgive you" to the Master. I mean, come on! I loved the library episodes so much, and when I found out Moffat wrote them, I was like 'of course he did'. |
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Post by tosney on Aug 27, 2011 22:57:25 GMT -5
Anyone seen "Let's Kill Hitler" yet? So many questions!
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Aug 27, 2011 23:04:47 GMT -5
Anyone seen "Let's Kill Hitler" yet? So many questions! Yeeeees aaaaaaah! I don't want to wait a whole week for the next episode! |
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Aug 28, 2011 13:25:04 GMT -5
Seriously, most people waited 3 months for this episode. I think you can wait a friggin' week  I waited three months for this one, too -- doesn't mean I'm patient. I'm a fan of watching tv shows all at once. Actually, I was pretty sure from the moment Mel showed up that she would at least have something to do with River -- Finding River is our main plotline at the moment, and I don't think Moffat would just forget that for the sake of some plotless Hitler-hunting episode. Especially because Mel was a completely new character, I knew that she had to be a plot device -- whether she was River herself or some plant from the Silence. I was actually suspicious that Mel had some sort of memory-replacer thing going on, that she'd shown up in the last couple months and implanted childhood memories into Amy and Rory's minds, which would fill some of the holes, but I guess that device's been done too many times in the last couple seasons... Also, Rory's "Heil!" fake-out takes the BAMF Moment Award for this episode. |
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Post by tosney on Aug 28, 2011 21:58:35 GMT -5
Last season Moffat seemed to fill in all the plot holes, so I'm sure something this obvious will be explained eventually.
But, I thought she wouldn't age, so how would she grow from child to adult? (And how do regular Time Lords, for that matter?)
And are you kidding? Everything Rory did this episode was BAMF.
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Post by tosney on Aug 29, 2011 19:42:20 GMT -5
Really? Never heard that theory. Still, he hasn't aged so I wonder how it works. It's probably one of those suspension-of-disbelief things, which I'm fine with. If there's an explanation out there I'd love to know.
And if he's not full Time Lord - I wonder what they're like.
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Post by tosney on Sept 5, 2011 19:51:04 GMT -5
Well, that helps make sense.
I liked it well enough, though I agree, I wasn't a fan of the fact that it was filler. They could at least include some concern and/or attempt of figuring out the phenomena that is Melody. Doesn't Amy want to know how everything happened?
The episode was kinda adorable though - the whole putting things that frighten him in his cupboard and he's a creature that just wants to fit in. Though it was a little too reminiscent of the one about the child who trapped people in her drawings.
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Post by tosney on Sept 5, 2011 20:43:21 GMT -5
Well, he didn't explain it much, but I thought that the child was a creature who went around and found a niche he could fill in order to feel included, and he found a niche with this couple who really wanted a child.
He could have explained it more thoroughly, though. I somehow doubt he's involved with Melody, but considering how Mels was planted in Amy and Rory's life - - maybe the same people were involved with this?
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Post by tosney on Sept 13, 2011 15:37:22 GMT -5
So the biggest debate everyone seems to be having is:
Was Amy's complete non-cooperativeness justified, or was she just being bitchy?
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Sept 13, 2011 18:18:00 GMT -5
Was Amy's complete non-cooperativeness justified, or was she just being bitchy? (Assuming this is about "The Girl Who Waited"...) Seems like justified bitchiness to me -- I mean, even if you hate your life, having it just erased isn't something you want to encourage. My main issue is that there's been no mention of River. At all. I mean, Amy goes forty years in solitary confinement, and there's no mention of missing her daughter? Mrrrrr, writers. Mrrrr. |
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