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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 13, 2011 8:28:58 GMT -5
I hate how little power we actually have in choosing a leader, or even (god forbid) choosing that we don't want one.
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Post by thestrangewinston on Jun 13, 2011 11:30:13 GMT -5
What I hate most about the American political system is the binary. It's us or them. You can only be Conservative or Liberal (according to the media). You can only be for something or against it...there can be no grey areas. More often than not, I'm HUGELY disappointed in the Democratic party and would love to vote for someone more liberal than the mainstream candidates tend to be. Unfortunately, I'm forced to vote Democrat because it's either them or a Republican candidate. You could always vote third party. I would love a decent third party to rise up and take a somewhat hold in american politics. That's why I love Bernie Sanders! He is one of the few independents in congress and he is on par with most of my views.
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alligator
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so it goes.
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Post by alligator on Jun 13, 2011 11:39:47 GMT -5
I'm registered Democrat and I have really liberal ideology, especially in terms of social issues. I lean conservative on economic issues occasionally.
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Annie Ozone
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Post by Annie Ozone on Jun 17, 2011 1:49:15 GMT -5
Liberal. So, so, liberal. People are like, "You're from Texas, liberal means moderate there," and I'm like NOT IN AUSTIN, BITCHES. I am essentially a socialist.
Re: the two-party thing. Do you know how easy it is to manipulate numbers with more than two parties? It is really, really easy.
I tend to think we should go back to the runner-up becoming VP system, myself. You're part of the enemy administration now, asshole!
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 17, 2011 5:04:37 GMT -5
I tend to think we should go back to the runner-up becoming VP system, myself. You're part of the enemy administration now, asshole! I would agree with this, except I'd really rather the conservative pricks not have Obama assassinated. Not much incentive when another liberal will just take his place; when the person you originally wanted in office is the runner-up, on the other hand...
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ThatsMyPie
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Why is a raven like a writing desk?
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Post by ThatsMyPie on Jun 17, 2011 20:55:00 GMT -5
More often than not, I follow socialist ideals, so I guess I'm more liberal. There are some issues that I side conservative with, but I prefer to classify myself as a socialist.
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Post by thestrangewinston on Jun 21, 2011 14:21:30 GMT -5
Liberal. So, so, liberal. People are like, "You're from Texas, liberal means moderate there," and I'm like NOT IN AUSTIN, BITCHES. I am essentially a socialist. Re: the two-party thing. Do you know how easy it is to manipulate numbers with more than two parties? It is really, really easy. I tend to think we should go back to the runner-up becoming VP system, myself. You're part of the enemy administration now, asshole! Actually we are from America where Liberal means moderate to the rest of the western world! But a lot of Texas is liberal. Its such a huge area so it can cover a lot of the spectrum. I feel bad that Rick Perry is your gov though... then again mine is Chris Christie. -____-
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Post by Silva on Jun 21, 2011 16:26:12 GMT -5
Actually we are from America where Liberal means moderate to the rest of the western world! But a lot of Texas is liberal. Its such a huge area so it can cover a lot of the spectrum. I feel bad that Rick Perry is your gov though... then again mine is Chris Christie. -____- Georgia's governor is Nathan Deal. Egads.
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Annie Ozone
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Post by Annie Ozone on Jun 21, 2011 21:12:09 GMT -5
Actually we are from America where Liberal means moderate to the rest of the western world! TRUTH. Indeed! Texas, where you have to drive for four hours just to leave the fucking state. And Governor Hair! Don't feel bad for us, he's really only our mascot. The Texas constitution was written in such a way that the governor is almost completely powerless, and the lieutenant governor can do whatever the fuck he wants. (David Dewhurst is a scary-ass motherfucker, and not just because of his teeth.) Basically, Texas: built for corruption. The governor is there to distract from the shenanigans of the lieutenant governor and the triumvirate (the agriculture, land, and railroad commissioners; ps the railroad commission regulates the oil and gas industry and has absolutely nothing to do with railroads). I mean, this is a state that found it necessary to build a harbor (Houston) sixty miles inland because the original harbor (Galveston) was too corrupt to function. My state, ladies and gentlemen! (And I love the shit out of it.) [/Texas history lesson]
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Post by WhatIf on Jun 24, 2011 14:49:22 GMT -5
I'm a Minarchist Libertarian leaning towards Anarchist. I just don't have enough faith in humanity to think that it could be a good idea.
I don't know too much about politics, but I'm learning. I think voting is important and I want to make an informed decision when I vote during out next election.
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Post by thestrangewinston on Jun 26, 2011 12:05:04 GMT -5
Actually we are from America where Liberal means moderate to the rest of the western world! TRUTH. Indeed! Texas, where you have to drive for four hours just to leave the fucking state. And Governor Hair! Don't feel bad for us, he's really only our mascot. The Texas constitution was written in such a way that the governor is almost completely powerless, and the lieutenant governor can do whatever the fuck he wants. (David Dewhurst is a scary-ass motherfucker, and not just because of his teeth.) Basically, Texas: built for corruption. The governor is there to distract from the shenanigans of the lieutenant governor and the triumvirate (the agriculture, land, and railroad commissioners; ps the railroad commission regulates the oil and gas industry and has absolutely nothing to do with railroads). I mean, this is a state that found it necessary to build a harbor (Houston) sixty miles inland because the original harbor (Galveston) was too corrupt to function. My state, ladies and gentlemen! (And I love the shit out of it.) [/Texas history lesson] Wooohoooo Texas history!
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Post by thestrangewinston on Jun 26, 2011 12:07:39 GMT -5
I'm a Minarchist Libertarian leaning towards Anarchist. I just don't have enough faith in humanity to think that it could be a good idea. I don't know too much about politics, but I'm learning. I think voting is important and I want to make an informed decision when I vote during out next election. It is a good thing to see that you actually want to be informed when voting. Just remember that when doing research you should check your sources(a lot of false information out there). This can be very useful when checking out things politicians have said: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
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Post by andreaisabbbw on Jun 26, 2011 22:42:26 GMT -5
I'm a Minarchist Libertarian leaning towards Anarchist. I just don't have enough faith in humanity to think that it could be a good idea. I don't know too much about politics, but I'm learning. I think voting is important and I want to make an informed decision when I vote during out next election. It is a good thing to see that you actually want to be informed when voting. Just remember that when doing research you should check your sources(a lot of false information out there). This can be very useful when checking out things politicians have said: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/It drives me nuts to see people vote based off what they see on television and debates. Even visiting the candidate's website is helpful. The candidates show their stances on everything there. You might think you're voting for a candidate that's going to lower taxes or whatever, but they might also be planning to cut the education budget in half or something and they don't mention it on tv spots or during debates. Yes, always check sources. Look through the opposing candidate's material, follow political blogs, check newspapers...but always make sure that they're credible sources. The best places to look that will give you a moderate perspective are the centrist media. I don't really recommend watching TV because often it's biased and leans one way or the other on the political spectrum.
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Post by embonpoint on Jun 27, 2011 9:13:23 GMT -5
It drives me nuts to see people vote based off what they see on television and debates. Even visiting the candidate's website is helpful. The candidates show their stances on everything there. You might think you're voting for a candidate that's going to lower taxes or whatever, but they might also be planning to cut the education budget in half or something and they don't mention it on tv spots or during debates. Yes, always check sources. Look through the opposing candidate's material, follow political blogs, check newspapers...but always make sure that they're credible sources. The best places to look that will give you a moderate perspective are the centrist media. I don't really recommend watching TV because often it's biased and leans one way or the other on the political spectrum. Whilst I, by no means, think that you should just vote on a whim or whatever, it's really fucking hard to know who to vote for because they all liiiieee! It almost doesn't matter what they state their policies to be, because at least half of it won't happen anyway. You can vote for someone who ends up doing the complete opposite of what you wanted/they said they'd do. /still sore from results of last election.
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Post by andreaisabbbw on Jun 27, 2011 12:49:40 GMT -5
It drives me nuts to see people vote based off what they see on television and debates. Even visiting the candidate's website is helpful. The candidates show their stances on everything there. You might think you're voting for a candidate that's going to lower taxes or whatever, but they might also be planning to cut the education budget in half or something and they don't mention it on tv spots or during debates. Yes, always check sources. Look through the opposing candidate's material, follow political blogs, check newspapers...but always make sure that they're credible sources. The best places to look that will give you a moderate perspective are the centrist media. I don't really recommend watching TV because often it's biased and leans one way or the other on the political spectrum. Whilst I, by no means, think that you should just vote on a whim or whatever, it's really fucking hard to know who to vote for because they all liiiieee! It almost doesn't matter what they state their policies to be, because at least half of it won't happen anyway. You can vote for someone who ends up doing the complete opposite of what you wanted/they said they'd do. /still sore from results of last election. SO TRUE. Or the candidates actually do what they say they're going to do and people get all unhappy and shit. /also sore from last election's results.
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