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Post by Silva on Jun 2, 2011 20:04:42 GMT -5
I was on deviantART at one point in my life. I made a stamp that said: "I never thought I'd burn books, but Twilight changed my mind."
You would not believe the shit I got for that, both from fans and people who disliked or were ambivalent about the books but thought it was appalling nonetheless.
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Post by nickusp on Jun 2, 2011 20:15:39 GMT -5
I was on deviantART at one point in my life. I made a stamp that said: "I never thought I'd burn books, but Twilight changed my mind." You would not believe the shit I got for that, both from fans and people who disliked or were ambivalent about the books but thought it was appalling nonetheless. |
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Post by Silva on Jun 2, 2011 20:20:47 GMT -5
Eh. Maybe I should consider recycling instead, then.
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Post by tastyink on Jun 2, 2011 20:38:44 GMT -5
Eh. Maybe I should consider recycling instead, then. Yea, next time just rip the pages out and recycle them. Then the paper can be re-used to make a book worth reading. |
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Post by Gina on Jun 2, 2011 21:09:34 GMT -5
Oh my. Twilight. Where do I even get started? Well, when I first heard about the whole craze, I was neutral about it. My anger towards the series came the summer before my Freshman year of high school (Summer of 08). I was on vacation in Wisconsin Dells and my family went out to breakfast. I sat down at the table and grabbed a newspaper. It was a local paper that had a story about Twilight on the front page. The headline? "Twilight- the next Harry Potter?" It took every little bit of decency I had to not rip up the paper. The rage I felt was indescribable. I don't care what anyone says, NOTHING is the next Harry Potter, and Stephanie Meyer does not even come close to having a shred of the talent that J.K. Rowling has. I can't say I have read the books, but I have seen the first movie. My friend asked me, and because I'm a bit of a pushover and I was really in the mood for some movie popcorn, I went with her. It was absolutely horrible, but that's another story for another time. Anyway, I guess my main problem is the fact that the only character that has the potential to play the role of the strong female completely relies on her boyfriend. When Ron left Hermione, she continued to help Harry find the Horcruxes and eventually save the wizarding world. When Edward left Bella, she went into the middle of a forest, curled up in the fetal position, and cried. As a big feminist, I find this to be a simply atrocious portrayal of women. I could rant for so much longer, but I would take up the entire character limit in this post, so I'm going to stop.  |
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 2, 2011 21:30:47 GMT -5
Well, when I first heard about the whole craze, I was neutral about it. My anger towards the series came the summer before my Freshman year of high school (Summer of 08). I was on vacation in Wisconsin Dells and my family went out to breakfast. I sat down at the table and grabbed a newspaper. It was a local paper that had a story about Twilight on the front page. The headline? "Twilight- the next Harry Potter?" It took every little bit of decency I had to not rip up the paper. The rage I felt was indescribable. I don't care what anyone says, NOTHING is the next Harry Potter, and Stephanie Meyer does not even come close to having a shred of the talent that J.K. Rowling has. Okay, first of all: my argument here has nothing to do with Stephanie Meyer's abilities (or lack thereof). But what people need to understand is that to everyone who isn't a fan of the Harry Potter series and/or franchise, it is simply a young adult series that became ferociously popular ferociously quickly, got itself a multi-million-dollar movie deal, and generated a huge fanbase. In those three points? Yes, Twilight is comparable (though not at nearly the same level), and the question whether it may become the next HP is understandable considering its then-recent acceleration from just-another-YA-fantasy to flying-off-the-shelves (plus, the purpose of headlines is to sell papers, and cramming two big-budget names together means twice the big-budget sales). Another question is raised. You say that nothing will be the next Harry Potter, but what do you mean by this? That nothing will earn the gross revenue that the franchise did, or that nothing will replace it in your heart? If the first: well, hard as it is to believe, something someday will probably pull in more money than has the Boy Wizard. If the second: whether or not another book comes along and takes the title of "favorite," I can just about guarantee that nothing can make you forget the first book that made you passionate about reading. So in this sense, no -- nothing will be the next Harry Potter. But you may want to open yourself up to the possibility of finding other favorite books, if only because your current self-imposed limit will do only harm to you and whatever literary career you plan to pursue. /soapbox. |
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Post by fred on Jun 12, 2011 9:31:52 GMT -5
I have issues with Twilight, some of which I found out about through Reasoning with Vampires (it's a Tumblr and you should definitely look it up, if you haven't already). The terrible writing, the way she makes it clear that she thinks women can't have a life without a man and the way Edward treats Bella are some of the points in my Very Long Argument.
But really, in my opinion, if the writing doesn't make you hate it on principle, Edward definitely should.
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Post by Dobby on Jun 12, 2011 15:14:29 GMT -5
I read the Twilight series after many of my friends recommended it for me. The plot could potentially be an interesting idea, but the grammar is horrible (I honestly can't believe Meyer is an English major), the plot is poorly developed, and the characters are flat and dull. I can't see the appeal of either Edward or Jacob, and I have no idea how anyone relates to Bella Swan.
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Post by Umbvix on Jun 12, 2011 16:39:30 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, when the series was starting to pick up in popularity a bit, I read them and actually enjoyed them. They kept me reading at least, and I tend to skip over unimportant descriptions to get to the dialogue, so I didn't really notice how godawfully annoying Bella's thinking is. Honestly, it was the fandom's that ruined it for me. I have a New Moon jacket that I'm afraid to even wear in public anymore because of the vitrol directed towards fans. I can acknowledge that it's not well-written, there's a bunch of stupid things about it, and the fans are downright repulsive sometimes.
But I'd be lying if I didn't say there was a time I deeply enjoyed it.
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Post by shaunanigans on Jun 12, 2011 17:02:19 GMT -5
Reasons I don't hate Twilight:
-Teenage girls can relate to Bella Swan. Stephanie Meyer makes Bella such a vague, ambiguous character so that awkward, clumsy brunette teenagers can slip themselves into her shoes.
-Stephanie Meyer got people to read. No, Twilight is not and never will be a work of literary genius, but girls who have never picked up a book in their lives besides what was required of them in school are now picking up books under the Teen Paranormal Romance section of Barnes and Noble. Reading is reading, even if the story isn’t great.
-Some of the ridiculous parts of the books are supposed to be jokes. So many Potterheads (let’s be honest, all Twilight haters are Potterheads) like to highlight moments of the book that are ridiculous, but guess what? They are supposed to be. It’s ridiculous because Stephanie Meyer wanted it to be
-Yes, the vampires sparkle, and that’s pretty freaking ridiculous. But they are also incredibly strong and fast, impervious to stakes and the other traditional ways of killing vampires, and possess some pretty cool powers. She made a new kind of vamp that is truly the perfect predator.
If you noticed, I am in no way saying that I think Twilight is better than Harry Potter. Honestly, I think it’s ridiculous the two even are compared to each other. They are in a completely different genre from each other. Twilight is supposed to be a romance. That’s why it was written. It wasn’t written to try and one up J.K. Rowling, who wrote one of the most amazing fantasy series of all time. HP doesn’t even contain vampires, unless it was a vague reference I don’t remember.
If you also noticed, I never said that I like Twilight because of the story line. I think Bella Swan is the worst literary character ever written into existence. She is weak, dependent, and has the personality of a brick wall. Not only that, but whoever edited Twilight must have been bored or on drugs, because the amount of grammatical errors and comma splices are astounding (although I’m slightly addicted to comma use).
I’m just saying, through all of its faults, Twilight wasn’t all that bad.
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Post by Dobby on Jun 12, 2011 17:10:21 GMT -5
Reasons I don't hate Twilight: -Teenage girls can relate to Bella Swan. Stephanie Meyer makes Bella such a vague, ambiguous character so that awkward, clumsy brunette teenagers can slip themselves into her shoes. Hey. Being a teenage girl, I take offense to that. |
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Post by shaunanigans on Jun 12, 2011 17:23:22 GMT -5
Reasons I don't hate Twilight: -Teenage girls can relate to Bella Swan. Stephanie Meyer makes Bella such a vague, ambiguous character so that awkward, clumsy brunette teenagers can slip themselves into her shoes. Hey. Being a teenage girl, I take offense to that. 90% of Twihards are awkward, impressionable, weak teenage girls (much like Bella). I'm not saying all teenage girls are going to love Bella Swan. The other 10% are cougars that think Taylor Lautner is hot. |
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Post by rayyychul on Jun 12, 2011 18:40:00 GMT -5
I am not a fan of Twilight.
Looking past the terribly unbelievable plot and piss-poor grammar, it's disgusting that Stephanie Meyer has glorified misogyny and anti-feminism to the point where young girls think Bella (and Edward's) actions are acceptable and should be revered.
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Post by Annie Ozone on Jun 12, 2011 20:10:23 GMT -5
My opinion on Twilight can be summed up by: the fanfiction is better. OMG, y'all, whatever your personal opinion of fanfiction is, at least skim some of the Twilight stuff, because a lot of these authors take the Twilight world and make it awesome. Go on, I'll wait. PS: I cannot believe Cleolinda ( cleoland.pbworks.com/w/page/10373763/Twilight#Bookdiscussionentries) has not yet been invoked on this thread. I cannot. |
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Post by andreaisabbbw on Jun 12, 2011 22:39:17 GMT -5
I read them for the vampire sex. Oh, wait, there was none.
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