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Post by thecourtezan on Oct 13, 2011 16:36:47 GMT -5
Hi guys! So I recently made a video on my vlog that is a modern (albeit...hip-hop-tastic, nsfw) retelling of the Rape of Persephone. Basically, I tend to identify rather too much with a lot of the stories in Greek mythology, so I tend to get really wrapped up in the way I describe them. The version I tell is here: youtu.be/lQ3I654lW0cstart at 2 minutes if you want to just get past the introductory comments =P Anyways, my real question is: Do other people do this? Do other people relate to traditional archetypal stories this way? Or am I just weird in the fact that I envision everything in today's day and age? And, as a result, involuntarily relate things back like this? |
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Oct 14, 2011 1:09:23 GMT -5
Me personally? Nope. I'm a folklore-aholic and damned proud of it.
Just a walking encyclopedia of weirdness right here.
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Post by Marina on Oct 14, 2011 15:23:58 GMT -5
SUPERNATURAL REFERENCE!!!!
I don't identify with any of the Greek stories, although I love them way too much. I'm really glad I don't identify with any of them, because let's be frank here, it would suck to identify with any of them.
By the way loved your Persephone/Hades retelling. It was fantastically fun.
Also, I'm one of the people who don't like the use of the word "rape" when referring to the kidnapping.
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Post by thecourtezan on Oct 15, 2011 21:02:26 GMT -5
Well, I feel like at some point Hades probably did technically rape Persephone in the sense that he probably had nonconsensual sex with her. But yes, I agree, it's confusing.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Oct 15, 2011 23:48:04 GMT -5
See, this is the difference between someone who was raised on The Fantasticks and... well, anyone else. "I know you prefer 'abduction,' but the proper word is rape! It's short and businesslike!"
Unfortunately, I can't find an example of the show with the original lyrics on YouTube. The currently running version changed them to avoid the "R word" because... well, like I said, not everyone grew up on the original lyrics and automatically thinks of both of the word's connotations. So the altered (inferior!) version is all over the intartoobs, and the better one is locked away in the hearts of true fans. Bah.
Anywho... Yeah, I don't particularly identify with any one myth. When I was little, I adored the tale of Arachne, and of course every bookish girl over-identifies with Athena to some extent, but... Luckily, I've never been raped by a god or anything...
Though I guess I was born of immaculate conception, so...
... You guys, I'm Jesus!
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Post by Marina on Oct 16, 2011 12:40:07 GMT -5
For me the preference comes from the different translations. It's confusing and frustrating that some translations use the word "abduction" or "kidnapping" or "rape". Also, some of them use "rape" not to mean non-consented sex, but to mean abduction and kidnapping. I don't remember where I saw that, but I got very upset because the modern connotation for rape is of course the non-consented sex. And while some people would understand that, most people don't, especially when the teacher doesn't bother to explain.
Of course, Hades probably did force himself on Persephone; I mean he is a Greek god; is there one that hasn't raped or tried to rape someone?
So, I'm not trying to be sheltered or narrow minded. I just use the word abduction or kidnapping, to avoid personal confusion.
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Post by KatjevanLoon on Oct 29, 2011 5:17:19 GMT -5
Rape could also mean any sexual activity without her father's permission. So there's that to consider too. (I have my own personal, religion-based feelings about the Persephone myth that are probably best explained by this blog post.) |
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