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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 1, 2011 11:58:49 GMT -5
I only saw River Song in the episode with the library and she got off on the wrong foot with me starting off :/ I really did not like River initially in that episode. She was just so annoying with her "I know who you are but you don't know who I am" attitude. However, she's grown on me in the more recent episodes with Eleven. They have better chemistry. Plus, she is pretty kick-ass and has awesome hair.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 2, 2011 0:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by gravyboat on Jun 2, 2011 0:38:50 GMT -5
Eleven is my favorite, I have to say. Wasn't a fan of RTD's writing, though I loved Nine. Ten was good until he got whiny.
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Post by bookworm2007 on Jun 3, 2011 13:09:52 GMT -5
I adore Amy. I think all her complexes and "skankiness" are worked into her character well by the sheer fact that she was let down by The Doctor so early in her childhood. I really think it scarred her. I love Amy because she's not afraid of a good adventure and she's witty and funny and so very Scottish. Also I think Karen Gillan and Matt Smith have fantastic chemistry that translates so well on-screen. AAAAAH YES. Psychological scarring pulled off without angst! Love it. I am curious to find out more about her, though -- when we first met her, she was living alone in her family home, but claimed to have been raised by "her aunt," whom we have never met but who, assumably, never noticed the Rift. My curiosity. It is aroused. I noticed her universe was reset at the end of season 5. (She grew up with her parents so she's supposed to be less scarred) but I don't think Moffat and company have mentioned that during this season. (I think they've been a little preoccupied with the whole FLESH story line) They also never bothered to mention again why Amy didn't know about the Dalek invasions that they brought up during the beginning of 5. I think that was a bit that ended up going nowhere but could have been cool...
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 3, 2011 14:25:36 GMT -5
AAAAAH YES. Psychological scarring pulled off without angst! Love it. I am curious to find out more about her, though -- when we first met her, she was living alone in her family home, but claimed to have been raised by "her aunt," whom we have never met but who, assumably, never noticed the Rift. My curiosity. It is aroused. I noticed her universe was reset at the end of season 5. (She grew up with her parents so she's supposed to be less scarred) but I don't think Moffat and company have mentioned that during this season. (I think they've been a little preoccupied with the whole FLESH story line) They also never bothered to mention again why Amy didn't know about the Dalek invasions that they brought up during the beginning of 5. I think that was a bit that ended up going nowhere but could have been cool... There are a lot of these bits... I hope they address them eventually, but til then, I'm enjoying the ride.
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Post by Lizzie on Jun 4, 2011 13:09:55 GMT -5
I can't believe A Good Man Goes To War is today and we find out so many things but then we have to wait for the 2nd half of the series ajgksbkjgbsk SO MANY FEELINGS I AM FEELING
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Post by bookworm2007 on Jun 4, 2011 14:17:08 GMT -5
I'm like a melted flesh. Watched the episode on a stream and I was laughing out loud (in insanity perhaps) during the revelation... If you want a spoiler, you're going to have to message me.
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Post by inarikins on Jun 4, 2011 17:38:21 GMT -5
I noticed her universe was reset at the end of season 5. (She grew up with her parents so she's supposed to be less scarred) but I don't think Moffat and company have mentioned that during this season. (I think they've been a little preoccupied with the whole FLESH story line) They also never bothered to mention again why Amy didn't know about the Dalek invasions that they brought up during the beginning of 5. I think that was a bit that ended up going nowhere but could have been cool... There are a lot of these bits... I hope they address them eventually, but til then, I'm enjoying the ride. I don't think that part of the storyline went 'nowhere'. This is Moffat, remember. Whatever anybody else says about him, he knows how to weave a story. It'll be explained and it'll be so brilliantly simple we'll all wonder why we didn't notice it before. (On another note, Nine was my first Doctor, but Eleven is MY Doctor. My favorite companion is Rory. (And if that's not acceptable to the other whovians, Donna is my other favorite. She's so sassy and she wasn't a love interest or interested in the Doctor as a lover. They were these two awesome friends on a journey through the cosmos.))
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 6, 2011 12:06:58 GMT -5
There are a lot of these bits... I hope they address them eventually, but til then, I'm enjoying the ride. (On another note, Nine was my first Doctor, but Eleven is MY Doctor. My favorite companion is Rory. (And if that's not acceptable to the other whovians, Donna is my other favorite. She's so sassy and she wasn't a love interest or interested in the Doctor as a lover. They were these two awesome friends on a journey through the cosmos.)) Rory is a companion, a wonderful one, and those of you who disagree can line up to be smacked with a wet fish. He has grown on me and I think that I can say that I prefer him over Amy, especially since the last episode. He actually cared about Jennifer and what was going on; Amy just had her personal drama with the two Doctors.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 6, 2011 12:46:49 GMT -5
(On another note, Nine was my first Doctor, but Eleven is MY Doctor. My favorite companion is Rory. (And if that's not acceptable to the other whovians, Donna is my other favorite. She's so sassy and she wasn't a love interest or interested in the Doctor as a lover. They were these two awesome friends on a journey through the cosmos.)) Rory is a companion, a wonderful one, and those of you who disagree can line up to be smacked with a wet fish. He has grown on me and I think that I can say that I prefer him over Amy, especially since the last episode. He actually cared about Jennifer and what was going on; Amy just had her personal drama with the two Doctors. Oh goodness this last episode (s6e07, "A Good Man Goes to War") made me adore Rory! Before that, I liked him well enough, but five minutes into this new one I was cheering him on wholeheartedly. So much wibbley-wobbley timey-wimey drama! I love it!
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Post by iamahexagon on Jun 9, 2011 12:48:06 GMT -5
It seems like you guys got into this topic a bit, but who do you prefer as head writer for New!Who: Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat? I prefer RTD because his series were good for character development. Moffat, whom I only hate when he leaves us with a horrible cliffhanger, I like for his stories. Some of my favorite stories are ones that he wrote. I think that RTD is a better show runner while Moffat is better at your once-in-a-while episode.
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 10, 2011 19:42:42 GMT -5
It seems like you guys got into this topic a bit, but who do you prefer as head writer for New!Who: Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat? I prefer RTD because his series were good for character development. Moffat, whom I only hate when he leaves us with a horrible cliffhanger, I like for his stories. Some of my favorite stories are ones that he wrote. I think that RTD is a better show runner while Moffat is better at your once-in-a-while episode. See, I love cliffhangers and all the torture they bring. I hate things to be tied up so neatly. It's difficult for me to choose Moffat or RTD because they wrote for two different Doctors. Moffat did write some for Ten, and they were brilliant, but I can't compare since RTD hasn't written for Eleven. I had issues with RTD, though. His over-the-top dramatics got on my nerves after a while. I hated that he wrote and made EVERY companion fall in love with the Doctor. He obviously had a crush on Tennant/The Doctor and wrote himself into the story. He wrote Tennant to be very emo and I didn't care for it. Eccleston's series was flawless, though. Moffat has flaws, too, but he hasn't written/directed enough of the canon for me to compare.
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Post by cyanea on Jun 10, 2011 20:08:56 GMT -5
Moffat, without a doubt.
RTD's overemotionalism and constant need to top himself in the season finales drove me crazy. The 2-parter with Davros is the perfect example: Not only does Davros come back, but every single companion 10 ever had comes back. It stole the spotlight from the return of one of the best villains of the series. And that whole 20-minute overemotional "Grand Tour of All the Companions" drove me absolutely insane. Oh, and the incessant need to tie people's families into the story. I'm sorry...I don't care about Mickey or Jackie or Martha's Giant Eyebrows Mom. I care about a guy in a blue box who travels through all of space and time, and not a bunch of people living in Council Estates.
Oh, and the Titanic episode. The Titanic episode is the epitome of every problem I had with RTD's writing: too many side characters to care about, every smart and independently minded female falling in love with him, and the subtle-as-a-brick-to-the-face hints that the Doctor is GOD.
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 10, 2011 20:15:22 GMT -5
Moffat, without a doubt. RTD's overemotionalism and constant need to top himself in the season finales drove me crazy. The 2-parter with Davros is the perfect example: Not only does Davros come back, but every single companion 10 ever had comes back. It stole the spotlight from the return of one of the best villains of the series. And that whole 20-minute overemotional "Grand Tour of All the Companions" drove me absolutely insane. Oh, and the incessant need to tie people's families into the story. I'm sorry...I don't care about Mickey or Jackie or Martha's Giant Eyebrows Mom. I care about a guy in a blue box who travels through all of space and time, and not a bunch of people living in Council Estates. YES YES all of this. He killed the dramatic scariness of the Daleks by bringing them back every season. And as for finales, Doomsday was a great series finale, but everything else after that was ridiculously over the top. Rather laughable, too.
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Post by cyanea on Jun 10, 2011 20:22:37 GMT -5
Moffat, without a doubt. RTD's overemotionalism and constant need to top himself in the season finales drove me crazy. The 2-parter with Davros is the perfect example: Not only does Davros come back, but every single companion 10 ever had comes back. It stole the spotlight from the return of one of the best villains of the series. And that whole 20-minute overemotional "Grand Tour of All the Companions" drove me absolutely insane. Oh, and the incessant need to tie people's families into the story. I'm sorry...I don't care about Mickey or Jackie or Martha's Giant Eyebrows Mom. I care about a guy in a blue box who travels through all of space and time, and not a bunch of people living in Council Estates. YES YES all of this. He killed the dramatic scariness of the Daleks by bringing them back every season. And as for finales, Doomsday was a great series finale, but everything else after that was ridiculously over the top. Rather laughable, too. Moffat recently announced that the Daleks would be taking a season or two "off". My love for that man grew even more that day.
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