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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 22, 2011 7:20:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't even call Catcher well-written.
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 22, 2011 19:19:05 GMT -5
See a lot of people complain that one of the reasons why they HATE Catcher in the Rye so much is because of Holden's character. But I say that if Salinger was about to get such a strong response from you then he's done his job. The worst that can happen when reading is not getting any sort of response from the audience. Dion -- I feel that Catcher is well written, but I won't argue with you about it here. I will say that it is much better than any of the Vonnegut that I've read
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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 23, 2011 2:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 23, 2011 19:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by mollywobbles on Jun 23, 2011 23:26:09 GMT -5
The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway, which I read my senior year of high school. I hate it with the fire of a thousand suns.
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Post by Arawn on Jun 26, 2011 1:30:40 GMT -5
Augh, Lord of the Rings. It's like he was all, "Look at this motherfucking world I have created!" and then remembered--"Yes, characters. I will get on that, as soon as I make three languages for my immortal elves to speak. Yes." That said, I love the Faramir/Eowyn storyline (both their separate ones, and then their romance). I would definitely read a book about them in Ithilien and the inevitable culture clash. This is just . . . the best description ever. I also agree that the whole Faramir/Eowyn storyline is one of the greatest subplots ever devised. Frankly, though, the Lord of the Rings trilogy is a breeze to read compared to The Silmarillion (also Tolkien's work, edited and published posthumously by his son, for those not familiar with the extended books). I had to give up on that one, though I like to think I made a valiant effort. In other news, I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned John Steinbeck. (Unless I just missed it?) He was easily one of the worst authors I ever had to endure for the sake of education.
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Post by Olive on Jun 26, 2011 11:53:39 GMT -5
In other news, I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned John Steinbeck. (Unless I just missed it?) He was easily one of the worst authors I ever had to endure for the sake of education. But but but... I love Steinbeck! Although I will admit that forcing high schoolers to read Of Mice and Men is a terrible idea. Have you read East of Eden?
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Post by andreaisabbbw on Jun 27, 2011 23:46:16 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, two books I cannot STAND are The Catcher in the Rye and Pride and Prejudice. Catcher in the Rye was well written, but my hatred for Holden completely over powered anything else I could possibly think about the book. Rather than thinking about how nice the writing was or how I was supposed to pity Holden, my only thought the entire time was that I wish he was real so I could throttle him. I've read Pride and Predujice four times. The first time I disliked it, but I was only 9 so I wrote it off as just not understanding it. I read it twice more and disliked it but didn't think anything of it. Then we read it in class this year and everyone loved it, but I grew to loathe it. I hated all of the characters, which I know we're supposed to, but rather than disliking them as people I thought they were horrible, one dimensional, cliched characters. I thought Pride and Prejudice was HI-LA-RI-OUS. I've never been able to take the book seriously (I do believe that that was Austen's intent, but who knows) and it's one of my all-time favorites. The characters are all silly and I really don't think the novel should be read to be picked apart. My senior year AP Lit teacher wanted to assign it for class and I immediately told her NO. We read Wuthering Heights instead. I sometimes think Virginia Woolf is over-rated.
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Post by Marina on Jun 28, 2011 17:37:03 GMT -5
I think Ann Rice is really overrated, especially her vampires, I find her books, especially Interview With the Vampire extremely boring.
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Post by badger on Jul 10, 2011 1:18:08 GMT -5
Most things by Tim Winton. I just can't bring myself to be interested in most of his books, particularly Cloud Street. The only piece of his that I liked was Scission, mostly because it was short enough not to overstay its welcome.
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Post by WhatIf on Jul 10, 2011 13:37:51 GMT -5
Hmm...
Romeo and Juliet. People act like it's such a tragic, romantic love story, but my friend and I were laughing the entire time when we read it in class. That book is ridiculous.
I hated Of Mice and Men. I also hated Grapes of Wrath.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jul 10, 2011 14:55:31 GMT -5
Hmm... Romeo and Juliet. People act like it's such a tragic, romantic love story, but my friend and I were laughing the entire time when we read it in class. That book is ridiculous. I hated Of Mice and Men. I also hated Grapes of Wrath. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
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Post by Marina on Jul 10, 2011 16:42:11 GMT -5
Hmm... Romeo and Juliet. People act like it's such a tragic, romantic love story, but my friend and I were laughing the entire time when we read it in class. That book is ridiculous. I hated Of Mice and Men. I also hated Grapes of Wrath. Laughing because of all the dirty jokes? I was. But I would say what annoys me in not Romeo and Juliet the text, but what they have come to represent. Most people today, majority of whom had never read Romeo and Juliet, picture their romance as the perfect relationship. People always compare their own relationships to R&J and most of us English majors usually go "Have you read it? They die!" I blame the media for this of course, as I usually do and the lack of common sense... which isn't so common nowadays.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jul 10, 2011 23:15:04 GMT -5
Hmm... Romeo and Juliet. People act like it's such a tragic, romantic love story, but my friend and I were laughing the entire time when we read it in class. That book is ridiculous. I hated Of Mice and Men. I also hated Grapes of Wrath. Laughing because of all the dirty jokes? I was. But I would say what annoys me in not Romeo and Juliet the text, but what they have come to represent. Most people today, majority of whom had never read Romeo and Juliet, picture their romance as the perfect relationship. People always compare their own relationships to R&J and most of us English majors usually go "Have you read it? They die!" I blame the media for this of course, as I usually do and the lack of common sense... which isn't so common nowadays. You say their relationship wasn't perfect because they died, I say their relationship wasn't perfect because they were hormone-driven 13-year-olds. Potato, potahto.
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Post by Marina on Jul 10, 2011 23:27:45 GMT -5
Laughing because of all the dirty jokes? I was. But I would say what annoys me in not Romeo and Juliet the text, but what they have come to represent. Most people today, majority of whom had never read Romeo and Juliet, picture their romance as the perfect relationship. People always compare their own relationships to R&J and most of us English majors usually go "Have you read it? They die!" I blame the media for this of course, as I usually do and the lack of common sense... which isn't so common nowadays. You say their relationship wasn't perfect because they died, I say their relationship wasn't perfect because they were hormone-driven 13-year-olds. Potato, potahto. I never said that, it's just the first thing that comes to mind when people compare themselves to Romeo and Juliet. I agree on the point you make. All I'm saying it's not the text that's at fault, it's what it has come to represent... does that make sense...
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