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Post by Marina on Jun 7, 2011 20:45:48 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp?
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Post by Gina on Jun 7, 2011 20:47:23 GMT -5
anything that can be interpreted, discussed, or studied. I feel like that definition is a little too vague, though. I like this; however, we then run into the issue that all books, plays, poems, etc. are literature because they can easily be discussed, studied (you may have to elaborate what you mean by "study"), and interpreted. I do like those qualifications, though. I'll try to expand my definition of "studied" without being too unclear. I suppose if a book is to be studied, it must have some important meaning, symbolism, etc. I hope I didn't confuse anyone, I'm not really a master of the writing/speaking side of the English major world.  |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 20:48:14 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp? Seconding this question. Because if the "written word" is literature, then how can it be trash? Basing this, as you said, that this is an overall definition and not individual. |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 20:49:33 GMT -5
I like this; however, we then run into the issue that all books, plays, poems, etc. are literature because they can easily be discussed, studied (you may have to elaborate what you mean by "study"), and interpreted. I do like those qualifications, though. I'll try to expand my definition of "studied" without being too unclear. I suppose if a book is to be studied, it must have some important meaning, symbolism, etc. I hope I didn't confuse anyone, I'm not really a master of the writing/speaking side of the English major world. Then this discussion is good because you are flexing and developing that unused muscle : ) |
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Post by Marina on Jun 7, 2011 20:51:28 GMT -5
What about works that become the definition of their genre? Or the canon?
i.e. Sherlock Holmes as the father of mystery/detective genre.
edit/ I understand it might have not been the first, but it's what people might think of when thinking of detective novels.
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Jun 7, 2011 20:57:07 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp? I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 20:58:50 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp? I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." I'm going to smack you hahahahaha. |
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Post by Gina on Jun 7, 2011 20:58:51 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp? I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." 1. Facetious is one of my favorite words of all time. 2. I agree with this definition.  |
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Post by Marina on Jun 7, 2011 20:59:29 GMT -5
Then what do we define as trash or pulp? I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." /slaps you with a trashy romance novel |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 21:00:35 GMT -5
I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." 1. Facetious is one of my favorite words of all time. 2. I agree with this definition. Quick, quick, add it to the favourite words thread, if you haven't yet! |
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Post by Dodger Thirteen on Jun 7, 2011 21:00:49 GMT -5
I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." I'm going to smack you hahahahaha. Only because I'm both hilarious and right without actually saying anything of worth. Now, in all seriousness, I define "trash" or "pulp" as something read for consumption rather than knowledge or thought. It's something you read in order to read, rather than something thought-provoking or without deeper meaning. It's shallow. |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 21:01:28 GMT -5
I'm going to be facetious and say that it's "something with no literary value." /slaps you with a trashy romance novel So you would say that that novel has absolutely no literary value?! : P |
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Post by Eternal Lobster on Jun 7, 2011 21:03:38 GMT -5
I'm going to smack you hahahahaha. Only because I'm both hilarious and right without actually saying anything of worth. Now, in all seriousness, I define "trash" or "pulp" as something read for consumption rather than knowledge or thought. It's something you read in order to read, rather than something thought-provoking or without deeper meaning. It's shallow. So wait wait. Your original definition of literature must be revised to be "written word which provokes thought." |
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Post by Gina on Jun 7, 2011 21:04:17 GMT -5
1. Facetious is one of my favorite words of all time. 2. I agree with this definition. Quick, quick, add it to the favourite words thread, if you haven't yet! There is a favorite words thread?  I only knew of the least favorite words thread. Awesome, thanks! When I think of trash or pulp, I think of the books one could buy at a drug store by authors no one has ever heard of before. Oh, and any book with Fabio on the cover. |
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Post by Marina on Jun 7, 2011 21:04:24 GMT -5
/slaps you with a trashy romance novel So you would say that that novel has absolutely no literary value?! : P I'm going to quote Dodger because I think trashy novels are "something read for consumption (by horny women) rather than knowledge or thought. It's something you read in order to read, rather than something thought-provoking or without deeper meaning. It's shallow." |
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