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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 9, 2011 0:06:59 GMT -5
Which is why everyone should be a feminist. No, there need not be a label. I wish there didn't have to be one either, but we live in a society where men typically dominate and oppress women (not men as individuals, but men as a social class). Feminism just advocates for equality between the sexes, which is why I don't completely understand people's hesitance to take the label. Yeah, the term feminist comes with a negative connotation, but who do you think gave it that connotation? MEN!
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Post by cyanea on Jun 9, 2011 0:07:06 GMT -5
Marina: Well that's the confusing thing. Barnes and Noble Classics are things like Dickens, Stoker, Milton, Shakespeare, etc...but when I pondered Classics as my minor at school, it was stuff like Homer, Virgil, Socrates, Plato, the Greek playwrights, etc.
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Post by Marina on Jun 9, 2011 0:07:27 GMT -5
As in, we agree that it's horrible?
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Post by Marina on Jun 9, 2011 0:08:40 GMT -5
Marina: Well that's the confusing thing. Barnes and Noble Classics are things like Dickens, Stoker, Milton, Shakespeare, etc...but when I pondered Classics as my minor at school, it was stuff like Homer, Virgil, Socrates, Plato, the Greek playwrights, etc. Minor in Classics usually concentrates on history, which usually means Greece and Rome. But in Literature it's all the old white dead guys.
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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 9, 2011 0:09:59 GMT -5
As in, we agree that it's horrible? Indeed, quite HORRORble. lololololol
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Post by Marina on Jun 9, 2011 0:12:17 GMT -5
As in, we agree that it's horrible? Indeed, quite HORRORble. lololololol THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 9, 2011 0:13:51 GMT -5
Or, the whore? Have you heard that theory?
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Post by Marina on Jun 9, 2011 0:17:01 GMT -5
Or, the whore? Have you heard that theory? No, do enlighten me.
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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 9, 2011 0:41:58 GMT -5
I can't remember exactly, because the professor who taught my Heart of Darkness only mentioned it in passing, but there's a deconstructionist interpretation of the novel in which "the horror" was actually "the whore" and it was just misheard.
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Post by Olive on Jun 9, 2011 7:59:16 GMT -5
As in, we agree that it's horrible? I get that this is an unpopular opinion, but I still get really sad when people have so much hate for Heart of Darkness...
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Post by andy on Jun 9, 2011 9:49:19 GMT -5
No, there need not be a label. I wish there didn't have to be one either, but we live in a society where men typically dominate and oppress women (not men as individuals, but men as a social class). Feminism just advocates for equality between the sexes, which is why I don't completely understand people's hesitance to take the label. Yeah, the term feminist comes with a negative connotation, but who do you think gave it that connotation? MEN! Actually feminists did it with their own hands because for a lot of people still feel like feminism only looks out for the interests of white Western middle class women.
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Post by iamahexagon on Jun 9, 2011 14:50:37 GMT -5
I have a question for you all:
We did this project in my high school English class this year where we had to analyze different types of literature and describe how it was impacted by a certain world event. For example, my group did 9/11. My teacher had us analyze certain types of "literature." He told us that, for this project, he was giving a very, very vague definition of literature. We analyzed a non-fiction piece, a fiction short story, a poem, a song, and a picture, all of which were called "literature" for this project. With the definitions given in this forum and the ones you follow in your life, was this an appropriate use of the word?
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Post by Olive on Jun 9, 2011 14:55:27 GMT -5
I'm not going to lie, part of me really hates when people refer to any sort of representation (pictures, sculptures, architecture) as "text." I will agree that it is art, however, I don't like calling it "text."
My freshman comp class, which was geared towards English majors because a majority of students in the class were English majors, did this all the time. We had to analyze "text" such as cheap magazine advertisements. Our final project was to make a website. Yeah, a website. I learned more about college-level paper writing from the philosophy class that I was taking than in that comp class.
God, that thing was a waste of time.
/tangent.
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Post by Fuck Yeah Dion on Jun 9, 2011 18:00:23 GMT -5
There's something so robotic about the term "text," but I kind of like it. It makes everything equal.
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Post by onlyaworkingtitle on Jun 9, 2011 20:19:58 GMT -5
There's something so robotic about the term "text," but I kind of like it. It makes everything equal. Ditto -- it's much less... judgmental? than the term "literature." But as Olive said, it doesn't apply to things that aren't, well, text. Which brings up the question: can an image count as literature?
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